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- The Following is an interview with Barbra Becker conducted on Nov. 18, 1989
-
-
- Geest: I welcome Barb Becker, one of the Founders and Directors of the UFO
- Research Network...My first question: Barb: Why did you start your
- organization?
-
- Becker: We saw a need for a real investigative organization here in Missouri
- and the St. Louis area in particular.
-
- Geest: Do you think that there is a lack of "true" investigative work being
- done in the field of UFOlogy?
-
- Becker: Yes. I think the organizations have sold out. I think that they are
- not doing the field work that needs to be done and are concentrating on
- sensational cases. Instead of collecting data, they seem more intent on
- "getting the BIG one" and writing a book.
-
- Geest: Understand. How will UFORN differ from say MUFON or UFOSLG?
-
- Becker: Well for one thing we aren't afraid to leave the area. We want to
- be able to mobilize at any time from anywhere, thus a concentration on getting
- people all over Missouri, Arkansas, Illinois, etc. involved. We are trying to
- build a REAL network of interested people.
-
- Geest: Does your group plan to publish anykind of newsletter?
-
- Becker: Eventually, but as it stands right now that is a future activity.
-
- Geest: To change the subject for a moment, Recently Whitley Strieber's
- movie Communion was realesed to local theaters. What are your comments on
- the entire Strieber "Phenomenon?"
-
- Becker: As an investigator I look at Strieber as a thorn in my side. It was
- hard enough before Strieber to sort out abduction cases now it's impossible.
- I think people should be aware but he has sensationalized it too much. I
- haven't seen the movie yet...actually I may not see it, I haven't decided yet.
-
- Geest: I also agree. Within the last 2 or 3 years the entire MJ-12 matter
- keeps comming up over and over again. We have the Lear files, Cooper, Moore,
- O.H. Krill and a host of others stating that the US government is behind a
- giantic coverup of UFO's..Do you have any comments on the MJ-12 material?
-
- Becker: I think it is highly probable that the U.S. Government is involved
- in a mega cover-up regarding UFOs. I think that the Roswell information, the
- slipped up press releases, the witnesses etc. attest to a cover-up. MJ-12?
- I think that Moore was getting very close to something in his work on the
- Roswell incident and "they" threw him the MJ-12 stuff as a diversion.
- If as he says he was playing both ends against the middle, then it seems
- likely that the info in MJ-12 was verbally fed to him. He then transcribed it
- photographed it, and delivered it to Shandera. He was looking for the "BIG
- ONE" too. Maybe he got a little too big!
-
- Geest: Interesting. At the recent "MUFON Show Me Conferance" here in the St.
- Louis area, wasn't Moore suppose to be one of the speakers...
-
- Becker: As far as I know he was. He was billed as a "Mystery Guest", but he
- didn't show up. We had a problem with him in 1985 at the MUFON Symposium held
- here. As I recall we weren't sure if he would show then. The mystery to me
- is why he keeps getting invited to speak.
-
- Geest: Moore does seem to be somewhat "elusive" after the UFO Coverup program.
- Next question. Recently in the news, The Soviet press reported a landing.
- Since this was carried by one of "the offical" USSR newspapers do you think
- that this means that the USSR government has acknowledged the existance of
- UFO's or this is just a result of the Soviet easing restrictions on their
- publications...Some Western journalists have hinted that since the reforms
- Gorbachev has institued along with that comes the "Tabloids"...in other
- words..What do you think about the Russian report?
-
- Becker: Well, it seems incredible but the Russians have always been more
- open to the paranormal than the US government. They have been conducting
- parapsychological research on an ongoing basis for years. That they should
- be less inhibited regarding the recent report does not surprise me.
- Unfortunately, I think they have been made a laughing stock by the world
- political community. One thing I find particularily interesting is the
- lack of interest within the UFOlogical community regarding the emblem drawn
- by the young witness on the side of the craft. Anyone familiar with UFOlogy
- should have picked up that the emblem seems to be identical to the emblem
- reported in the UMMO PAPERS by, I believe, Antonio Ribera. For years it
- has been belived that this was a hoax, at best the figment of Ribera's mind
- but how do we account for the same symbol appearing on the ship reported
- seen by the Russian boy???
-
- Geest: For those readers who are not familiar can you describe the emblem?
-
- Becker: Maybe I can draw it. ]+[ That's basaically it.
-
- Geest: With the recent changes within the Eastern Block of nations, do you
- anticapate more information on UFO's from a source which was previsouly very
- closed mouthed....?
-
- Becker: No. I think they will succumb to US government pressure to keep it
- quiet.
-
- Geest: If I understand you, you think that the US government will put pressure
- on either the Soviet Union, or various Eastern countries to supress
- information...is that correct?
-
- Becker: Yes.
-
- Geest: interesting...Next question, back to UFORN. Does your group plan any
- specific events such as sky watching, or trips to various portions of the US
- such as the 4-corners area to follow up on research that has shown these areas
- for what ever reason seem to have a lot of UFO activity?
-
- Becker: We will definately have skywatches...they are a nice unifying
- experience. As for doing anything out of state we will have to see how things
- go.
-
- Geest: Barb: Have you yourself ever seen a UFO?
-
- Becker: Yes. More than once. I basically got involved through investigating
- the cattle mutilations in Elsberry, Missouri in 1978. At that time I saw what
- I would consider to be a "typical" UFO..."flying saucer".
-
- Geest: I recall the Elsberry case. If I recall correctly, didn't the local
- authorites pass it off as a "Satinic Cult" of some type. And Secondly, what
- did your investigation turn up?
-
- Becker: The investigation turned up 8 to 10 mutilations within a half mile
- radius from April to August. I personally saw, as I said before, what I
- consider to be a UFO within that half mile. I watched as others skirted
- treetops, appeared to descend and then rise. I have no idea what they were
- doing or why I was allowed to watch.
-
- Geest: Recently Dave Rapp a MUFON investigator conducted an investigation on
- cattle Mutations in Missouri, he reported that the incissions were very
- precise, I do not wish to dwell on this subject but for the sack of information
- in your investigation did you find simular markings?
-
- Becker: I was never lucky enough to get in immediately following a
- mutilation they were always decomposed. So you ask, how do I know they were
- mutilations? Well, I don't. What I have to go on is the testimony of the
- people of Elsberry, the farmers who have been on the land for generations,
- when they tell me that the cattle deaths were "unnatural" I believe them...
- who better to know? Also, Nocturnal Lights were seen in all the areas of the
- mutilations and one Daylight Disc as well...that places the UFOs in the
- vicinity of the mutilations for the specified time period. Circumstantial,
- but sometimes that is all have. I also took slides of the NLs.
-
- Geest: Next question, this again relates to UFORN. Do you percieve your group
- as a grass roots organization or an organization which will try to unite the
- various groups within the UFO community?
-
- Becker: I can walk on water...but I can't do that. It would be nice if the
- various groups could forget their differences and begin to work together but I
- don't see us as dedicating any time to the effort. I have been corresponding
- with Fran Ridge, MUFON State Director for Indiana, and we are exchanging
- information. This is what I hope to get from the BBS...all the sighting
- reports Ridge collects from all over the country. If UFORN is affiliated
- with any group it would be CUFOS.
-
- Geest: Barb: How can one get in contact with your group?
-
- Becker: Well, they can of course E-Mail us here or they can write:
- UFO Research Network
- P.O. Box 19744
- St. Louis, Mo. 63144
- 314-862-2009
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- Geest: Barb Becker's network address is 161@3466. I wish to thank Barb for
- taking time out to discuss the various topics we have presented.
- Any comments may be addressed to 1@3466 or 161@3466...
- ng restrictions on their
- publications...Some Western journalists have hinted that since the reform